Mentors and Heroines
On the topic of mentors and heroines, Sharon told a story of early in her career when a female manager was "catapulted" into a position above her current one - instead of pretending she knew it all, the manager simply admitted she needed help.
"So she sat down, she said 'right, I have to manage us through this forecast round, I know absolutely nothing about what any of you do - so let's start there - tell me what you do', and I was like .. wow!" Sharon said.
"I had always been bluffing and hiding my ignorance ... just realising it was OK to acknowledge your ignorance and actually no one was going to think less of you for that, and I've found that a really, really helpful lesson that I've tried to take with me as I've gone on."
Antonia said if she was to name her heroine, it would probably be her Mum, but also said she had taken a lot of inspiration from the book Invisible Women by Caroline Criado Perez, which looks at many societal practices through a rigorous gender lens.
Imposter Syndrome, the psychological pattern where a person doubts their own skills, talents and accomplishments despite clear evidence of their competence, and fears being found out, was also broached by the panel.
"I went and had my job interview to become the Treasurer a few months back," Penny said, "and the first thing they said was 'why do you want to be the Treasurer of the biggest bank in the country?' and I just said ... OK... just let me think about this.
"You definitely deal with it, but I think - if you're invited in, make sure you put yourself in what you've been invited into, because otherwise you spend your whole life questioning yourself and you actually miss out on a lot of opportunities."
Sharon also said she sometimes felt it.
"I just spent the first year at least thinking, 'they're gonna figure this out - they're going to work this out that I’m not the person they think I am'," she said.